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#22493
PHILanthropogenic Global Warming 1 Year, 11 Months ago Karma: 114
Those ubiquitous lines of cloud that we all know don`t belong up there (everybody knows) and that the powers that be deny the existence of yet proclaim will save humanity in the future, have been with us for a long time and have done and will do nothing of the sort.

Despite all the shouting and screaming about the impending global warming disaster, the movers and shakers of this world have been dreaming of a warm Arctic for the last 100 years.
Not only dreaming, but implementing their dystopian vision, all the while spouting Orwellian doublespeak to the credulous masses they so despise.

“Warming the Arctic with large-scale Geo-engineering projects has been the vision of industrialists for 100 years – and still is”

In 1962 Harry Wexler died. Wexler, the last of the Global Warming advocating Meteorologists was about to give a lecture on
“The Climate of Earth and Its Modifications” at the University of Maryland Space Research and Technology Institute.
He proposed such ecologically sensitive schemes as

Increasing the global temperature of the Earth by 1.7°C by detonating H-bombs in the Arctic Ocean so as to inject a cloud of ice crystals into the polar atmosphere

And

Destroying the ozone layer to abruptly increase the surface temperature by spraying several thousand tons of chlorine or bromine with a stratospheric airplane.

His was a long line of megalomaniacs reaching back to 1877 who proposed such schemes as channelling warmer ocean currents into the Arctic region, using giant mirrors in space to focus solar radiation and exploding atomic bombs overhead. The last “brave new” one offered by Aldous Huxley`s, brother Julian. In a spirit of warm collaboration to counter any cold war antagonism, the Soviets had a few ideas of their own to add to the melting pot. These involved using particles in the polar orbit to channel radiation, damming the Bering strait, pumping the warmer Pacific current through the Arctic sea and into the Atlantic by means of Nuclear power, powdering polar ice with coal dust and CREATING CLOUD COVER at sufficient heights OVER THE POLES TO TRAP HEAT. These projects were not covert, they were much publicised.

Curiously the proposals to warm the Arctic were reversed in 1963, a year after Wexler`s death. This was largely due to the conclusions drawn by Oceanographer, Roger Revelle, that the climate was already warming due to Carbon Dioxide. Now, the new official line was that the sky would fall on our heads if we didn`t find a way to prevent this. No satisfactory explanation was given for this radical change in policy from “Warming good” to “Warming Bad”.

This was the year that the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) recommended the appointment of a “Panel on Weather and Climate Modification”. This, in conjunction with the previously established military`s 1958 weather weapons program ,would enable a military/industrial collaboration free from public scrutiny and restrictions on funding owing to the “national security” justification for this “international global crisis”.

After the drastic policy reversal, madcap schemes proliferated which involved spraying particles into the atmosphere and the oceans. These schemes, though the purported aims were opposite, often bared a striking resemblance to the ones proposed just a short while earlier such as injecting particles and destroying the Ozone layer.
Under this new imperative to prevent global warming due to carbon dioxide at all costs, the initial emphasis wqs not, as one might expect, on cutting carbon emissions but on mitigating the warming through use of atmospheric aerosols to block sunlight. The problem with this being that massive quantities of CO2 would be released by the jets themselves. The powers that be must have been aware of the self-defeating nature of the methods used to carry out their purported aim. They must also have been aware of the amount of water vapour, itself a more potent greenhouse gas, released along with particulates leading to persistent contrail formation and thence to artificial cirrus clouds. All factors that would cause the very crisis they were supposed to be protecting us from. There is a term for that, but you won`t find it in any scientific documents, “A RACKET”.

The official stance of the Energy Cartels is that Global Warming is a grand hoax, funding researchers to establish this image in the public mind, whilst covertly investing in the newly opened opportunities for extracting oil, gas and minerals due to the reality of receding arctic ice.

People generally associate clouds with cooling. They reflect solar short wave radiation during the day, so less reaches the earth. However, at night they act as a blanket and trap long wave IR radiation, heating the earth.

Persistent contrails, primary contrail cirrus and secondary contrail cirrus clouds have a net warming effect.
Global warming occurs more at night, more in the winter hemisphere and closer to the poles.

“If contrails and the clouds formed from these lingering contrails (contrails cirrus) contribute to the greenhouse effect, then it is virtually impossible for chemtrails to be the chosen solution for reversing global warming.”
www.thetruthdenied.com/news/2013/02/25/c...-not-geoengineering/

“Continuation of this vast and terra-deforming aerosol geoengineering operation will only confirm that one agenda is to deplete the arctic ice – a concept that has been embraced by influential men, Oil companies and nations for nearly 100 years.
The government, military, IPCC, UN and corporate stakeholders can no longer pretend to be desperately concerned about global warming and climate change while the world is waking up to realize these same entities are participating in the deployment of electromagnetic weapons and aerosols of massive climate destruction as a monstrous and Orwellian hoax on humanity.”
Govt. Documents Link Global Warming to Advanced Military Climate Modification Technology
www.geoengineeringwatch.org/govt-documen...fication-technology/

“If the global population were to find out that the current aerosol spraying operation is actually responsible for arctic ice melts, flooded coast lines and drowning polar bears, the massive global uproar could stop the chemtrails operation within a week.”
Chemtrails Climate Modification Is Fake Global Warming and Climate Change
youtu.be/vYe8iV3E9A0
Aerosols May Drive a Significant Portion of Arctic Warming
www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/warming_aerosols.html
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#22494
Re: PHILanthropogenic Global Warming 1 Year, 11 Months ago Karma: 273
Interesting post Dylan.

So maybe chem-trails are being used to rain down self-replicating nanytes on us, as mad-scientists seek to impose the Singularity on us...and perhaps create a cyber-plague?

Or, maybe chem-trails are being used to accelerate global warming, so that Big Oil can drill-out Arctic oil reserves?



The problem, unfortunately, is that without actual (relevant) scientific expertise that it's very difficult to separate what's merely plausible from what is likely. Clearly that NASA link suggests that "aerosols" play a large part in the melting taking place in the Arctic (in particular).

The issue is that establishing that these chem-trails are the same type of aerosols (in terms of their effect on climate) AND that the quantities are large enough to have a significant effect.
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#22495
Re: PHILanthropogenic Global Warming 1 Year, 11 Months ago Karma: 114
Jeff,

No lack of relevant scientific expertise (including from NASA) on the subject.

First, persistent contrails (their word for chemtrails) lead to the formation of contrails induced cirrus clouds. It is cirrus clouds that cause the warming.

science-edu.larc.nasa.gov/contrail-edu/science.html
"Contrails are clouds formed when water vapor condenses and freezes around small particles (aerosols) that exist in aircraft exhaust. Some of that water vapor comes from the air around the plane; and, some is added by the exhaust of the aircraft.
The exhaust of an aircraft contains both gas (vapor) and solid particles. Both of these are important in the formation of contrails."

The addition of water from the aircraft is also a factor in stepping up this process of cloud formation but no CCN, no clouds.

"Contrails, also known as primary cirrus or cirrus contrails, spread out and evolve into secondary cirrus – artificial cirrus clouds that add to naturally occurring cirrus clouds.
www.icas.org/ICAS_ARCHIVE_CD1998-2010/ICAS2006/PAPERS/136.PDF
“(1). Cirrus clouds can evolve from spreading persistent contrails known as primary cirrus or contrail cirrus (2). Secondary cirrus occur due to locally increased soot and aerosol concentration, which might lead to the formation of cirrus clouds that would not form in the absence of air traffic.”

Second, it is established that contrails, cirrus clouds and contrail induced cirrus clouds have a NET WARMING EFFECT. The effect of contrail cirrus clouds is 9 times greater than contrails alone. All have greater radiative impact than CO2.

www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/v1/n1/full/nclimate1068.html
We show that the radiative forcing associated with contrail cirrus as a whole is about nine times larger than that from line-shaped contrails alone. We also find that contrail cirrus cause a significant decrease in natural cloudiness, which partly offsets their warming effect. Nevertheless, net radiative forcing due to contrail cirrus remains the largest single radiative-forcing component associated with aviation.

5A_2008_Weather_Climate_Engineering_March_2008_Perturbed_Clouds_in_Climate_System.pdf

Global estimates of the effects of contrails are they contribute to a net warming (Minnis et al. 2004).
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Re: PHILanthropogenic Global Warming 1 Year, 11 Months ago Karma: 273
Good reasoning Dylan. However that only addresses half of my question, but not the other half:

...that the quantities are large enough to have a significant effect?

In other words, proving that the dynamic exists doesn't prove the "plot" itself. For example, suppose 95% of the "aerosols" and incremental cirrus cloud formation resulted from heavy industry, and other man-made (but accidental) contributors to "global warming", and (hypothetically) only 5% came from chem-trails.

Then the only conclusions we could draw would be either that chem-trails were never intended to cause global warming, OR it was intended, but despite their evil intents it's largely been a failure.

Here's the empirical problem: trying to QUANTIFY the size/percentage/rate at which this dynamic is impacting climate change.

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Re: PHILanthropogenic Global Warming 1 Year, 11 Months ago Karma: 114
Before leaping to such conclusions, Jeff, did you consider why on earth you would make such an assumption?
Heavy industry REDUCES cirrus cloud cover.

“Pollution from the burning of fossil fuels reduces the formation of icy clouds, US researchers have found.”

www.nature.com/news/2004/040119/full/news040119-13.html
Pollution hits clouds on high


Look up artificial cirrus cloud formation and you will be swamped by articles talking about AVIATION induced contrail cirrus clouds.

These are official sources. Of course they won`t look too hard at the hydroscopic nature of aluminium particles.
Nor will they make mention of unmarked aircraft flying in patterns that would cause any airline pilot to be fired or the Treaty on Open Skies allowing military aircraft full freedom.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_Open_Skies
The Treaty on Open Skies entered into force on January 1, 2002, and currently has 34 States Parties. It establishes a program of unarmed aerial surveillance flights over the entire territory of its participants. The treaty is designed to enhance mutual understanding and confidence by giving all participants, regardless of size, a direct role in gathering information about military forces and activities of concern to them.

As for plots, it is already on record that the industrialists “plotted” such activities as using cloud cover to warm the poles and destroy the ozone layer. Just because they changed their official stance later on doesn`t negate that fact.

As for the empirical problem, the same applies to the effect of CO2.
At least it has already been established that cloud cover is a STRONGER driver than CO2. Yet, all we hear is CO2 but what of the effect of contrail cirrus ..................

"Silence like a cancer grows "
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Re: PHILanthropogenic Global Warming 1 Year, 10 Months ago Karma: 232
Dylan,

Fascinating.

If I had a dime for every "tic-tac-toe", "chem trail" (whatever they actually are called), I'd be pretty well off.

Clear days, cloudy days, doesn't matter.

I've heard weather manipulation (for rain). That's what you want to believe. But, it just doesn't work.

I've heard they are just "f*cking around", some jet discharge. That doesn't work either.

I've heard to block radio correspondence, because there's metal in the spray.
Now, we are getting somewhere.

I do know they had a field day during the BP Gulf spill, and we do know how much the USAF was involved there. They weren't spraying the spill at those altitudes. I figured they were blocking press correspondence or they really wanted a storm to wash the detergent down. They weren't "f*cking around" though.

Very interesting "post(s)" Dylan-

"Silence like a cancer grows "

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Re: PHILanthropogenic Global Warming 1 Year, 10 Months ago Karma: 114
Earl,

They most certainly are primarily for weather manipulation, but not for rain. They have the opposite effect – drought. They lock in water.
The hydroscopic salts that act as cloud condensation nuclei (cloud seeds) also turn the atmosphere into a plasma. This is where the radio communications come in. When you consider that the numerous HAARP like ionopsheric heaters and similar NEXRAD radar technology around the globe are in fact super-powerful radios that not only receive but also emit, you can see that weather manipulation is enhanced by this artificially induced conductive atmosphere.

If the weather wizards want rain, they use silver iodide, which basically creates clouds which suck up the available moisture and forcibly dump it. Also the use of negative ionisers which accelerate cumulus cloud formation. This is where the flood aspect comes in.

As for the BP spill, I would hazard a guess as to what the USAF was up to. They were deliberately exacerbating (through contrail cirrus) the release of Methane (23 times more potent than CO) which along with petroleum is 40 percent of the mixture.

“Methane. Long associated with bovine burps and putrid landfills, it's what triggered the explosion that caused the Deepwater Horizon to burn and sink in the first place, unleashing a torrent of crude into the Gulf of Mexico that has now surpassed the Exxon Valdez as the worst oil spill in United States history. The gas is also still being released along with the oil: According to BP scientists, the mixture spewing from the ocean floor is about 40 percent natural gas (read: mostly methane), and 60 percent petroleum compounds.
Just to refresh your memory, methane is a greenhouse gas that is 23 times more powerful than carbon dioxide. According to the Environmental Protection Agency, methane concentrations in the atmosphere have more than doubled over the past two centuries, mostly due to human activity.
A potent greenhouse gas. That makes up close to half of the recently revised estimate of the 35,000 to 60,000 barrels of oil leaking each day. Of which an unknown portion is escaping into the atmosphere. You're right to ask: Why is no one talking about this?”
“ Based on Chanton's recent research looking at natural oil seeps on the sea floor, he estimates that anywhere from 10 to 50 percent of the methane released might make its way into the air. This, he says, is because the oil actually forms a protective coating around the methane bubbles, allowing the gas to escape to the surface instead of being dissolved in seawater and consumed by natural methanotrophic bacteria”

www.huffingtonpost.com/jennifer-grayson/...the-bp_b_613723.html
Eco Etiquette: Will The BP Oil Spill Worsen Global Warming?
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Re: PHILanthropogenic Global Warming 1 Year, 10 Months ago Karma: 232
Earl,

They most certainly are primarily for weather manipulation, but not for rain. They have the opposite effect – drought. They lock in water.
The hydroscopic salts that act as cloud condensation nuclei (cloud seeds) also turn the atmosphere into a plasma. This is where the radio communications come in. When you consider that the numerous HAARP like ionopsheric heaters and similar NEXRAD radar technology around the globe are in fact super-powerful radios that not only receive but also emit, you can see that weather manipulation is enhanced by this artificially induced conductive atmosphere.

If the weather wizards want rain, they use silver iodide, which basically creates clouds which suck up the available moisture and forcibly dump it. Also the use of negative ionisers which accelerate cumulus cloud formation. This is where the flood aspect comes in.

As for the BP spill, I would hazard a guess as to what the USAF was up to. They were deliberately exacerbating (through contrail cirrus) the release of Methane (23 times more potent than CO) which along with petroleum is 40 percent of the mixture.

“Methane. Long associated with bovine burps and putrid landfills, it's what triggered the explosion that caused the Deepwater Horizon to burn and sink in the first place, unleashing a torrent of crude into the Gulf of Mexico that has now surpassed the Exxon Valdez as the worst oil spill in United States history. The gas is also still being released along with the oil: According to BP scientists, the mixture spewing from the ocean floor is about 40 percent natural gas (read: mostly methane), and 60 percent petroleum compounds.
Just to refresh your memory, methane is a greenhouse gas that is 23 times more powerful than carbon dioxide. According to the Environmental Protection Agency, methane concentrations in the atmosphere have more than doubled over the past two centuries, mostly due to human activity.
A potent greenhouse gas. That makes up close to half of the recently revised estimate of the 35,000 to 60,000 barrels of oil leaking each day. Of which an unknown portion is escaping into the atmosphere. You're right to ask: Why is no one talking about this?”
“ Based on Chanton's recent research looking at natural oil seeps on the sea floor, he estimates that anywhere from 10 to 50 percent of the methane released might make its way into the air. This, he says, is because the oil actually forms a protective coating around the methane bubbles, allowing the gas to escape to the surface instead of being dissolved in seawater and consumed by natural methanotrophic bacteria”

www.huffingtonpost.com/jennifer-grayson/...the-bp_b_613723.html
Eco Etiquette: Will The BP Oil Spill Worsen Global Warming?


Dylan,
I appreciate the reply, it makes sense-

Thank You
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To the community,

I ask people a lot of questions. In the south we have a tendency to think from the ground up so to speak.

In this case "what goes up, must come down".

A theory presented to me-

Bye putting "fluoride" in the "city" water, which enables the body to absorb. Then spraying aluminum over a mass population (chem trials are everywhere, not just over our tent).

Aluminum leads to Alzheimer's and Dementia, with Fluoride in the water supply, this is leading to earlier and more often cases. As the Aluminum kinda gets into everything you eat, drink and breathe.

Forgot were i was at there for a moment, leads to early Dementia and something else-

What do you think ???

Ah,
Earl
Thank You

PS- Primary ingredients of Chemtrails which can be described as an acidic mixed pathogen soup of micro plasma: Barium, Aluminum, Polymer Fibers

The Environmental Protection Agency refuses to analyze air samples from Chemtrails.

www.libertyforlife.com/military-war/chemtrails.htm
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Earl,

there are methods to detoxify themselves:

www.naturalnews.com/035177_chlorella_cilantro_detox.html

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